12/21/2012

Hey, Dec 21st is my parents’ anniversary!

I’m impressed that you know that. I couldn’t remember my parents’ anniversary if it were tattooed to the back of my hand.

It is the final day, the end of days, an end to all things.

 Or not.

Wait why is this the best date/hoax/fear/hope???

According to prophecy that's the day the world will end. Or not. Depends on who you ask.

Alot of people seem to think that something will happen at least...

What prophecy and why that day?

Its an old maya legend, they calculated the earth is renewing itselfs. last time it was about 64000 years ago. we gained or self-awareness. The mayas calculated 12-21-12 to be the next fase in this. People will change and become diffrent, some think with telepatic powers others think we just gain self-awareness in a other and higher level. Now the bible also speak of a change, when Jesus comes back to earth we enter a 1000 year empire in peace and love. So the earth also change when He comes. This would be also connected to 12-21-12

I dont believe any of this by the way

Some say it's an approximation, based on the movements of celestial objects. The Maya had a very sophisticated calendar system, which was based on the stars more than the seasons. They counted days, and the closest thing their calendar has to years was 360 days long. Apparently they noticed that the stars in the night sky go through a predictable cycle that returns to their chosen starting position about once every 5100 years. 

Anyway, the big fuss over that date is that the experts have been able to calculate that at exactly that date, the Maya calendar returns to its zero position. There is such anticipation over the date for several reasons: first of all, the accuracy of the calendar proves just how mathematically gifted these people were, and it also proves how carefully they monitored the stars. The calendar is actually more accurate than our own.

Secondly, their brilliance motivates us to ask why they chose to begin their calendar at the time they did, and why they decided to measure time by so many millenia. You see, in modern society, it would be considered pointless to base a calendar on any cycle that does not have any significant baring on the economy. Ours returns to its zero position every four years, because it takes about 365.25 days for the earth to complete one trip around the sun. It's practical, because our months, and days are good at predicting the seasons. To us, that's what's most important to the economy, and we assume that's the most logical motivation behind engineering a calendar. 

Now, if we assume the Maya were logical like us, and due to the sophisticated calendar, we are forced to speculate that they were, then how is a 5100-year calendar practical in predicting environmental changes when a simpler, four-year calendar should suffice?  We don't know, and that's what's so baffling. 

This leads us to countless theories about how the maya calendar predicts grander seasons, like ice ages, and great floods. Some believe it forecasts the orbit of a 10th planet known as planet X, which supposedly has a long, comet-like orbit around the sun. Others think that the calendar was handed to the Maya by a race of extraterrestrials, who make regular trips to earth to nudge us along technologically, mentally, genetically, or even spiritually. Others think it forecasts great doomsday-like events, certain to thin out the human population.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised this is the first you've heard of it. It's a really big deal among the mysticists, and attention to it has sky-rocketed in recent years. Global-climate-change-fearing Liberals these days tend to fall into one of two camps: scientifics who blame human air-polution, and mysticists who believe the Maya saw it coming many centuries ago, by simply watching the night sky.

wow, interesting Im not sure if I believe any of it. Well the facts I believe obviously but all the stuff about doomsday I dont know. Either way it will be interesting to see what happens on 12-21-12, since its only just over 5 years away

Well, if history is any indicator, this doomsday prophecy probably isn't true. 

Then again, maybe it is….. >_>

Well, if it is, then we can all count ourselves lucky to have the rare opportunity to witness the rapid, but inevitable extinction of our own species. Especially if it's like a super-volcano, or an asteroid collision. Personally, I never worry about the end of the world, because whether I experience it or not, I'll still end up dead, and at this point in life, I fully understand that no matter when I die, there have certainly been people who have died at a younger age. In fact, one wonders why the maya would bother making an apocalypse countdown clock. What a strange thing to trouble one's descendents with.

Maybe not to trouble their poor descendants, but just as a "heads-up".  You know,

"You're all going to die on this day, just, uh, make plans to either be somewhere else, or, um, you know, write up that will.  Not that anyone will benefit, but if it makes ya feel better ... "

I wish I knew someone who was alive for 12/21/1912, I wonder if anyone gave a hoot!!

Well, surely you know people who were alive for Y2K. No big deal, right?  If the 2012 thing turns out to be a disappointment, the next big "end-of-the-world" date is the year 2060, so chosen by Isaac Newton himself.

haha ya i remember that whole Y2K thing everything was suppossed to crash and be wiped out etc etc blah blah… never happened

What is this, aside from 1212 being a great song by AFI??

read the above ^ it explains everything

btw the AFI song is 1221 (just a typo right ) and theres a Rush song called 2112 too

I'm personally rooting for the aliens to come and/or for us to evolve. That would kick ass. But if it is a doomsday, well, I actually do care. Not necessarily because I fear death, but because I'm not done living life.

Well, on the contrary, if it does turn out to be a human extinction, it would mean that you are done living, whether you think so or not. Unless of course you believe in that whole reincarnation thing.

Some kind of "great enlightenment" is by far the most popular prediction of the mysticists. Though many suspect the transition from ignorance to enlightenment will require some pretty tough times... 

Personally I don't care what happens, if anything. I'm generally happy to experience whatever the world around me would have me experience. Great enlightenment, total extinction, or otherwise. 

lol, now you're just being a smartass. Well, I'll explain anyway. What I mean when I say that I'm not done living, is that I want to experiences things in life that I haven't gotten to yet before I die, before I get old too actually.

That would be nice, but it's always important to be happy with what you already have experienced.  For tomorrow, you could find yourself bleeding to death in a tangled mass of metal that was a car a minute or two before.

I know, but I don't feel that I have settle just because something MIGHT happen.

No, you don't have to, of course. But it does no good to disapprove of a grim future, when you know doing so won't change it, anyway.

Well, why not? I mean, if I know I'm about to get sliced up in to tiny little pieces in the near future, whether it changes it or not, I'm going to disapprove. If I know the president is about to blow up Africa no matter what in the future, I'm still going to disapprove. And so on and so on.

Why?  Our fates are above us. They deserve our respect. For every evil action, there is an equal or greater good response. In short, Africa blowing up would be for the best, in the long run. Our failure to understand how is a mere symptom of our own short-sightedness.

Yes yes I know the whole with every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, which is true except in morality. I'm not going to just say "Oh, well, millions of people are about to die for no reason, but at least I know something good is right around the corner!." And, I don't believe in fate. I mean, you're pretty much saying that the world should be indifferent it seems. I'm not sure you are, but that's how it seems.

Only indifferent toward things we can't affect or change.

Indifference is worse than cruelty, IMHO.

Only indifference toward things we can affect or change.

I agree with M_eanwhile. Being indifferent seems to much like giving up…

Oh yeah?  Well, guess what. I don't care what either of you think. You know why? Because I'm indifferent. So there.

2012 is a hoax somebody started it and the information just kept on getting added to. there is a date set for December 13, 2007 that we will have a massive earthquake that will set off a bunch of the underwater volcanoes and kill most of humanity and destroy everything in its path. which wont be good but if this does happen im gonna take precaution and go somewhere that i'll be safe.

thats not a earthquake, its a explosion from within the earth hollow space. humans are fighting their and they are more advantages then us!

Again with the hollow earth! Don't be silly, Boomstam. When December 21, 2012 gets here, we'll all be able to see the flying saucers emerge from the interior surface of the hollow earth, through the polar openings.

Maybe I should buy that car and house i've always wanted ;)

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