They will likely come and get us now! We are doomed. If only there was something we could have … like free speech – Thats what my grandad fought for – i guess he must have been on the losing side after all
The difference is that the Church of Scientology charges large amounts of money just to participate in their "religion". A person who is interested in Scientology is not even allowed to learn the basics of what Scientologists believe without shelling out thousands of dollars. Granted things like walking on water are pretty strange, but Christianity's at least straightforward about its supernatural elements. I just think that people ought to be informed that there are aliens in their religion upfront, before they're asked to invest their life savings. That's first date material, if you ask me.
According to this document, learning the famous "Xenu Story" (the one which introduces the concept of alien dictators living in volcanos) may cost you up to 35,000 USD, not counting prior "education". The Xenu story is only revealed at OT level III. Yikes!
Finrod, I thank you, but you know I can accept none of the credit. We're talking about Scientology. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
RichardAM, the process of worship within Scientology basically consists of taking classes (which you pay for) that gradually reveal bits and pieces of their theological outlook. At the early levels, it's presented more like a self-help system with new age overtones than a religion. There are some meditation-like exercises that you're taught to help you absorb class material, and there are auditing sessions, which are sort of like one-on-one exorcism rituals designed to rid you of your personality flaws -- you pay for those, too. You're expected to read and study L. Ron Hubbard's books, but mostly, the point is to pass these classes, be "successfully" audited, and progress to higher levels on the "tone scale", which is the only way to attain salvation in Scientology. There are a ton of these classes/levels, and you can be arbitrarily required to repeat levels at any time, so if you're not broke yet, rinse and repeat.
You're right to be scared. In fact, if you don't hear from me in a few days, you'll know what happened.
Well, thank you. You're quite the wit yourself. And "I endorse all of what Bailey says"? What a marvelous ring that has. Although perhaps you'd have been safer putting "says" in the past tense. Too late now.
Also, wouldn't a Hubbard-shaped barrel just be an ordinary barrel?
I think that the issue bailey & Finrod brought up is my biggest problem with Scientology: the fact that you HAVE to pay. If your religion is about saving people, why not save poor people as well as rich people? After all, you can't take it with you on the spaceship back to the mother planet.
I meant 'says' in an aorist rather than present sense...
Yes, i should think Hubbard-shaped would be ordinarily rotund; but that would have to be an adjective in the past tense, as in the Japanese language, since he shuffled off this mortal coil some time ago.
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They will likely come and get us now! We are doomed. If only there was something we could have … like free speech – Thats what my grandad fought for – i guess he must have been on the losing side after all
that link doesn't work anymore :(
BAM: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://yoism.reality-movement.org/images/NYT/PlayScientology-small.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.yoism.org/%3Fq%3Dnode/233&h=166&w=183&sz=11&hl=en&start=46&um=1&tbnid=yYqE2w_ixaaEFM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscientology%2Bsouth%2Bpark%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
A lot of companies have been quick to remove things from youtube lately.
What's the difference between this and some other wackjob religion?
I mean aliens sure, but it's just as surreal and random as human creation from an all powerful being a la Christianity?
So if you're charged for learning the worshipping process, what comes at the lower level?
(I haven't read up on it at all- i'm scared they'll come and brainwash me one night while i'm sleeping if I do)
" ...the concept of alien dictators living in volcanoes... "
Oh me oh my. Hopefully I'll stop laughing soon.
Bailey, your way with words is priceless.
Finrod, I thank you, but you know I can accept none of the credit. We're talking about Scientology. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
RichardAM, the process of worship within Scientology basically consists of taking classes (which you pay for) that gradually reveal bits and pieces of their theological outlook. At the early levels, it's presented more like a self-help system with new age overtones than a religion. There are some meditation-like exercises that you're taught to help you absorb class material, and there are auditing sessions, which are sort of like one-on-one exorcism rituals designed to rid you of your personality flaws -- you pay for those, too. You're expected to read and study L. Ron Hubbard's books, but mostly, the point is to pass these classes, be "successfully" audited, and progress to higher levels on the "tone scale", which is the only way to attain salvation in Scientology. There are a ton of these classes/levels, and you can be arbitrarily required to repeat levels at any time, so if you're not broke yet, rinse and repeat.
You're right to be scared. In fact, if you don't hear from me in a few days, you'll know what happened.
-bailey-, you are too modest!
I appreciate we're shooting fish in an L. Ron Hubbard-shaped barrel, but you have a gift with words. Take some credit at least.
RichardAM, I endorse all of what bailey says.
Well, thank you. You're quite the wit yourself. And "I endorse all of what Bailey says"? What a marvelous ring that has. Although perhaps you'd have been safer putting "says" in the past tense. Too late now.
Also, wouldn't a Hubbard-shaped barrel just be an ordinary barrel?
I meant 'says' in an aorist rather than present sense...
Yes, i should think Hubbard-shaped would be ordinarily rotund; but that would have to be an adjective in the past tense, as in the Japanese language, since he shuffled off this mortal coil some time ago.
-bailey-, do you have any more insights into Scientology? It's been four months and no-one's come a-knocking.
Well, as far as I'm aware.
you are right RichardAM, alien dictators or magicians resurrecting it's all make believe at the end.